if you missed it, Daniels was taken out in the first quarter last Sunday because of a rib injury. Sunday and Monday, the news out of Commander land was Daniels is fine, his injury is nothing.
But he didn't practice today because of his rib injury which puts him on the questionable list for Sunday. What was Sy's biggest concern about Daniels, that he wasn't big enough to take the pounding that still happens to QBs in the NFL - even though it's way less than it used to be - and 2 months into the season and he's already on track to miss his first game.
Jones has prototype size and he is fully unreliable on health.
Roethlisberger was a mountain of a QB and chronically injured. We're a little less than halfway through the season, I wouldn't say it's early for an injury either.
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so did RG3 before he tore his ACL
Man,He is fun to watch even in the division I hope he can stay healthy.
Grade: 87
Five-year starter. Earned first team All-SEC and All-American in 2023. Spent three years at Arizona State where he was the first true freshman in school history to start week one. Transferred to LSU in 2022 where he ended up winning the Walter Camp Player of the Year Award, Johnny Unitas Golden Arm Award, Davey O’Brien Award, and Heisman Trophy. (in 2023). Daniels brings two important traits to the table that fit perfect into today’s NFL. He is a true dual threat that knows how and when to use his legs to enhance both the passing and running games. He also has a tremendous amount of experience with his best football coming after he transferred into the SEC. The ability to process and get the ball out actually improved after making that jump in competition against NFL-caliber speed. He plays fast and confident, he shows poise and intelligence. If he can avoid a lot of heavy contact in order to stay on the field, he will end up a dangerous big play machine at the next level. The concerns around his body type and durability are warranted, but he hasn’t missed a start since November of 2019, shows extreme dexterity in his joints, and exudes both mental and physical toughness.
*Daniels set records for explosive plays. Daniels checks every both athletically. Daniels left his mark on the LSU coaching staff when it came to leadership and work ethic qualities (among coaches that set the bar high). Daniels has impressed in private meetings with teams. What else can one want? The body type is the one thing that will prevent some from putting him into the elite category (I bet he plays closer to 200 pounds) and because of historical data, I won’t push back against those that want to steer clear. But you have to keep in mind the historical data is partially from a different era of football. With how much quarterbacks are protected now; I think him being around 205-210 pounds is not as big of a deal as it would have been in 2000-2010. Brian Daboll made this offense more efficient in year one, but he knows that will never be good enough. They need more explosive plays while maintaining the efficiency both on the ground and via the air. That sums up Daniels and what he brings to the table. The game is changing and Daniels is closer to the prototype than had he come out ten years ago, by a mile. He’s the guy if he is somehow there at 6.
NFL Comparison: Randall Cunningham / RET
NFL Ceiling: Lamar Jackson / BAL
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Sounds like Daniels is already on the RG3 path. Giants fans can only hope he flames out as RG3 did.
Jones has prototype size and he is fully unreliable on health.
Roethlisberger was a mountain of a QB and chronically injured. We're a little less than halfway through the season, I wouldn't say it's early for an injury either.
Some mobile players are better than others at going down. Lamar Jackson and Kyler Murray are very good at getting out of bounds or giving themselves up to avoid hits. Daniels has highlight reels of getting rocked like he is the size of Cam Newton or Josh Allen (and even they know when to get out). Jones has taken a lot of stupid hits that could have been avoided like Roethlisberger who was too slow to get out.
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Mahomes has had rib injuries. Stafford has. Favre did.
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so did RG3 before he tore his ACL
So, let me make sure I understand where you are going with this.
Are you now suggesting a rib injury will lead to an ACL injury next for Daniels?
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Mahomes has had rib injuries. Stafford has. Favre did.
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so did RG3 before he tore his ACL
That's an excellent point. Everyone knows that rib injuries are often a reliable predictor of future ACL damage.
Excellent point.
And our prototype is also Smart, Tough, and Dependable.
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Mahomes has had rib injuries. Stafford has. Favre did.
Should I list more?
so did RG3 before he tore his ACL
So, let me make sure I understand where you are going with this.
Are you now suggesting a rib injury will lead to an ACL injury next for Daniels?
I am. A rib injury can affect a players ability to fully wind up and throw the ball - which could lead to Daniels running more & assuming more injury risk. It can also lead to other injuries like elbow and shoulder if he modifies his mechanics to try to compensate for his rib injury.
Time will tell but it's very early in his career to start thinking these things. And as a Giants fan he can go the route of Joe Theismann or Ron Jaworski.
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In comment 16658676 bw in dc said:
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Mahomes has had rib injuries. Stafford has. Favre did.
Should I list more?
so did RG3 before he tore his ACL
So, let me make sure I understand where you are going with this.
Are you now suggesting a rib injury will lead to an ACL injury next for Daniels?
I am. A rib injury can affect a players ability to fully wind up and throw the ball - which could lead to Daniels running more & assuming more injury risk. It can also lead to other injuries like elbow and shoulder if he modifies his mechanics to try to compensate for his rib injury.
Time will tell but it's very early in his career to start thinking these things. And as a Giants fan he can go the route of Joe Theismann or Ron Jaworski.
It would have been easier to just walk back that ridiculous assertion instead of contorting yourself to try to double down on it.
I think you made a stupid suggestion that the rib injury could be a precursor to an ACL tear, and then pieced in the rest when you got called out on it.
It's not so much the final assertion of "rib injuries can affect throwing mechanics" as it is the path that you took to arrive at that statement.
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what did I say that was so controversial. Rib injuries can affect throwing mechanics. You don't think that's true?
I think you made a stupid suggestion that the rib injury could be a precursor to an ACL tear, and then pieced in the rest when you got called out on it.
It's not so much the final assertion of "rib injuries can affect throwing mechanics" as it is the path that you took to arrive at that statement.
I stick by what I said, if Daniels has a rib injury and inside his head he questions whether he can make a 30 yard throw at the moment and that causes him to tuck the ball and run then that opens him up to downfield injuries because most QB ACL tears that I've seen, like RG3s - happen when they are running and cutting downfield.
Disagree if you want, and certainly I'm an ass for rooting for an opposing player to get hurt, but factually I'm not wrong.
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what did I say that was so controversial. Rib injuries can affect throwing mechanics. You don't think that's true?
I think you made a stupid suggestion that the rib injury could be a precursor to an ACL tear, and then pieced in the rest when you got called out on it.
It's not so much the final assertion of "rib injuries can affect throwing mechanics" as it is the path that you took to arrive at that statement.
I stick by what I said, if Daniels has a rib injury and inside his head he questions whether he can make a 30 yard throw at the moment and that causes him to tuck the ball and run then that opens him up to downfield injuries because most QB ACL tears that I've seen, like RG3s - happen when they are running and cutting downfield.
Disagree if you want, and certainly I'm an ass for rooting for an opposing player to get hurt, but factually I'm not wrong.
I don't think "factually" means what you think it means. Leaving aside the nonsense that your argument is rooted in to begin with, even the most favorable interpretation of your point is a matter of probability, not fact.
There are certainly many examples of large pocket passing QBs getting injured.
Anthony Richardson is MUCH bigger and has been hurt constantly..
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Mahomes has had rib injuries. Stafford has. Favre did.
Should I list more?
so did RG3 before he tore his ACL
That's an excellent point. Everyone knows that rib injuries are often a reliable predictor of future ACL damage.
🎼The rib bone’s connected to the knee bone🎼
I only used the word fact to say that QBs get injured more on plays where they are running and not passing, and that I believe to be a fact since RB rules apply as soon as they cross the LOS and stop being a passer and get hit harder by the defense.
Anthony Richardson is MUCH bigger and has been hurt constantly..
Correct. That hit had nothing to do with his frame.
Rib injuries have happened to thicker QBs like Stafford, Favre, Brees, Wentz, Herbert, etc.
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what did I say that was so controversial. Rib injuries can affect throwing mechanics. You don't think that's true?
I think you made a stupid suggestion that the rib injury could be a precursor to an ACL tear, and then pieced in the rest when you got called out on it.
It's not so much the final assertion of "rib injuries can affect throwing mechanics" as it is the path that you took to arrive at that statement.
I stick by what I said, if Daniels has a rib injury and inside his head he questions whether he can make a 30 yard throw at the moment and that causes him to tuck the ball and run then that opens him up to downfield injuries because most QB ACL tears that I've seen, like RG3s - happen when they are running and cutting downfield.
Disagree if you want, and certainly I'm an ass for rooting for an opposing player to get hurt, but factually I'm not wrong.
On the other hand, a rib injury preventing him from throwing well means their offense is less good, drives are shorter, and he gets hit less. It’s actually negatively correlated!
By the way, a minute in NY only gets you 43 seconds in 2024
I'll take it - it's good two ways either
a) he does have shorter drives which means the Commanders stop scoring TDs which means they lose more - good for the Giants
or b) Daniels starts pressing more, trying to force throws which means more potential INTs so the Commanders lose more - good for the Giants
Sounds like Daniels is already on the RG3 path. Giants fans can only hope he flames out as RG3 did.
This is such a lazy take. The only thing these two have in common is their skin color. Have you watched them both play? RG3 was reckless and was an average passer at best. Daniels is smooth when he runs and is dynamic throwing the ball.
He's two pounds lighter than Randall Cunningham when he came into the league, same height, same build, weaker arm. He managed to play through 15 or 16 seasons despite injuries.
Smith is 6', 170lbs.
I would trade Lawrence AND Nabers for him straight up right now. It’s a QB driven league. Daniel’s is going to be a problem for us for ten years most likely. I also can’t stand the skins, but I’m also not trashing Daniel’s because his uniform is one I don’t root for. Kid is a baller. Skins got lucky to get him without trading the farm. Sucks for us.