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| Giants LB Azeez Ojulari: With star pass rusher Kayvon Thibodeaux slated to potentially return from injured reserve in Week 10, Ojulari is expected to be a player that teams target looking for edge help. |
A 6th? If we’re lucky a conditional 5th.
I'd be happy for a 5th.
I am thinking Detroit Lions could show interest. They saw him up close.
Even if they are interested in signing him, they still can as long as the team that trades for him doesn't tag him. I think that's a risk worth taking.
Whoops sorry. I forgot Gettleman isn't a GM any longer.
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5th would be disappointing but hey, if we aren’t signing him than get what you can.
Even if they are interested in signing him, they still can as long as the team that trades for him doesn't tag him. I think that's a risk worth taking.
Definitely, just seems like low odds on that. I also don’t want to sign him, so there’s that too, don’t really trust him being over the hump, medically.
Only if the season has gone to hell??? You been watching??
If there are multiple bidders/interested parties (particularly teams with high expectations for this season), I'd like to think Schoen ought to be able to leverage this into a conditional fourth rounder.
Anybody know if there's a website where you can go and look at comparable in-season trades for the past several years so we can see what the return might look like?
How can you say that with so much confidence? Dexter didn’t take off until his 4th season here.
This. Especially since they paid a Burns.
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the more interesting move would be to shop Thibodeaux. We're not going to want him here for a second contract.
How can you say that with so much confidence? Dexter didn’t take off until his 4th season here.
Excellent question
But you also have to ask what other players will be coming and going in FA
The benefit of trading him now is the guaranteed pick vs the uncertainty of what the net plus or minus of FA will be
3rd and a 5th? Hell for that I'd include their choice of Fox, Davidson or Belton.
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the more interesting move would be to shop Thibodeaux. We're not going to want him here for a second contract.
How can you say that with so much confidence? Dexter didn’t take off until his 4th season here.
So what? Thibodeaux isn't Lawrence.
Thibodeaux isn't a bad player, but I don't think he's going to be part of the long term picture here. Party of it is we already have Burns, and part is that I doubt Thibodeaux is going to do what it takes to become the type of player that's worth paying a second contract.
X infinity. He's not a JAG, but his play is below the value of his draft position.
Anything we could get for Thiboghost would be a net positive.
Unfortunately, I get the feeling Schoen would be very hesitant to trade any of his picks right now.
Can a player on IR be traded? If so, I would be open to trading KT, but as someone said, I don't think Schoen is really interested in trading his draft picks, especially the #5 pick of the first round.
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the more interesting move would be to shop Thibodeaux. We're not going to want him here for a second contract.
How can you say that with so much confidence? Dexter didn’t take off until his 4th season here.
So what? Thibodeaux isn't Lawrence.
Thibodeaux isn't a bad player, but I don't think he's going to be part of the long term picture here. Party of it is we already have Burns, and part is that I doubt Thibodeaux is going to do what it takes to become the type of player that's worth paying a second contract.
All I’m saying is that I remember a ton of posters here on BBI didn’t want to give Lawrence the 5th year option because they felt he underachieved in his first three seasons. In year 4 he exploded and became an All Pro.
Im not saying that its going to happen with Kayvon, but we need to let things play out before making assumptions. Thibodeaux was playing better this season before getting hurt.
lol, exactly.
Optimistic of you Rico, lol
Hes the perfect 3rd DE. You cant have enough pass rushers.
You want a 4/5 round pick for Ojulari? You may have another Elerson Smith drafted.
He has had injury issues, I cannot see why he wouldn't take top dollar from whomever is willing to pay it instead of team-friendly deal from the NYG. Any player who has an expiring contract or finite team control will be valued less (Slayton). Their value will decrease with each passing game unless there is a desperate need from a team with aspirations of going far into the post-season.
Here are our UFAs and RFAs at the end of the season
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All I’m saying is that I remember a ton of posters here on BBI didn’t want to give Lawrence the 5th year option because they felt he underachieved in his first three seasons. In year 4 he exploded and became an All Pro.
Im not saying that its going to happen with Kayvon, but we need to let things play out before making assumptions. Thibodeaux was playing better this season before getting hurt.
I was probably one of those posters.
Lawrence is a wonderful player. Absolutely wonderful. So what? The infrastructure around him is so poor that his career is likely to end up being little more than a footnote. Think Joe Thomas in Cleveland or Calvin Johnson in Detroit.
Until intelligent people are put in place this organization will continue to churn through people, careers, and most importantly years like a meat grinder.
This whole thing needs to be rebooted with someone smart at the top, running the whole show.
If you still work there for them, that's quite a statement.
If not, they haven't really had a good 3rd round pick in ages - since who, Manningham?
The Giants need to end in at the #3 draft spot at worst.
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All I’m saying is that I remember a ton of posters here on BBI didn’t want to give Lawrence the 5th year option because they felt he underachieved in his first three seasons. In year 4 he exploded and became an All Pro.
Im not saying that its going to happen with Kayvon, but we need to let things play out before making assumptions. Thibodeaux was playing better this season before getting hurt.
I was probably one of those posters.
Lawrence is a wonderful player. Absolutely wonderful. So what? The infrastructure around him is so poor that his career is likely to end up being little more than a footnote. Think Joe Thomas in Cleveland or Calvin Johnson in Detroit.
Until intelligent people are put in place this organization will continue to churn through people, careers, and most importantly years like a meat grinder.
This whole thing needs to be rebooted with someone smart at the top, running the whole show.
Is it fair to say that as great as Dexter is, he hasn't had that much of an impact on Wins and or certain defensive rankings like run defense?
I don't think he gets a big contract anywhere so he might just remain here.
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The trade for Burns actually reinforces it. They're going to need to spend at other positions and the roster's going to change more as the losing continues.
I don't think he gets a big contract anywhere so he might just remain here.
One team will pay him. It might not be $30M AAV, but a team will pay him and he'll split.
A conditional 7th that becomes a 6th if he plays would still be a great deal.
He is a 24 year old pass rusher who has been very productive. He looks like he has taken the next step in his development this year. Not unheard of for a 24 year old edge to break out in year 4.
IMO he is a building block.
So they either get a 2nd or 3rd, or keep him and try to resign him. If he ends up going somewhere else, that means they got outbid and will likely receive a comp pick that is better than a 5th.
This feels eerily similar to McKinney. People were down on him due to injuries. Now he is a superstar in GB. Same with Love who has become a pro bowler.
No need to sell low on a 24 year old Edge.