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Pat MacAfee show & JS

Mayo2JZ : 7:22 pm
I rarely start threads but did anyone happen to see today’s episode? Pat completely threw JS under the bus and basically said he lied to Mara about SB going to the Eagles. Just a very damming report on the franchise.
It's not a report  
k2tampa : 7:30 pm : link
It's his opinion. Did he say where he got the info? He is an 'enterainer' who pays people to come on his show for 'interviews' and his 'model' is to create outrageous content to fuel fools who tune in.
What does that mean - he lied about Barkley going to the Eagles?  
Matt M. : 7:30 pm : link
What did he lie about?
Lied? How the eff would  
section125 : 7:33 pm : link
he know where Saquon would sign? Once the FA period opened, Saquon was linked to the Eagles right away.

What a crock of shit...
I like watching roided-up hopheads as much as the next guy  
…. But he might be talking nonsense here…. just maybe
RE: Lied? How the eff would  
Matt M. : 7:41 pm : link
In comment 16659482 section125 said:
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he know where Saquon would sign? Once the FA period opened, Saquon was linked to the Eagles right away.

What a crock of shit...
That's what I'm saying. He didn't lie about anything. Yes, Mara was worried about Barkley going to the Eagles above all other places. But, they had no control over that other than trying to re-sign him themselves. There was nothing to lie about.
I  
Giants4me : 7:49 pm : link
don't think he lied,,,he's just incompetent.

Sent the local guys out beforehand to say they didn't value the RB position then almost cried for a chance to match.

How about " we'll beat anyones offer".?

McDonnell with his litle " what's our identity quip....

Your ID is nepotism......

Poorly handled all the way around.

Poster AB noted McDonnell almost got the Giants in big trouble with his texts on the Flores hire.





He said  
Mayo2JZ : 7:56 pm : link
that he told Mara that the Eagles were out. This was on Hard Knocks which I haven’t seen. The point is that this entire franchise is fucked up. Just another brick in the wall and I am not a Pink Floyd fan
JFC...  
bw in dc : 7:57 pm : link
this Barkley stuff never ends.

I look forward to the Eagles barely making the playoffs, or not at all (which would be tremendous), and getting ousted on Wild Card weekend.

Barkley isn't getting them over the hump. Their defense isn't good enough and, more importantly, neither is Hurst.

Barkley is a fun watch. He increases the entertainment factor. That's it. And to that, I say BFD.

Do you want to see a real RB who makes a real impact? That player is farther down 95 South in Baltimore.


National Media  
jwb50 : 7:58 pm : link
Mocking Giants either way they look like stiffs.
Wait till Monday night there will be a camera showing Mara.
RE: National Media  
Mayo2JZ : 8:09 pm : link
In comment 16659495 jwb50 said:
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Mocking Giants either way they look like stiffs.
Wait till Monday night there will be a camera showing Mara.


That’s the whole point of this thread. No one has any respect for this franchise nor should they. It literally is a clown show
The Barkley stuff doesn't make sense  
Sean : 8:14 pm : link
But, until NYG wins, they will get zero benefit of the doubt. Fact is NYG has a shitty offense at 2-5 while Barkley just had a huge game for Philly at 4-2.

People are going to rip the Giants approach.
and JS is going to continue to get ripped  
HomerJones45 : 8:25 pm : link
he let the 3rd leading runner in the NFL walk and handed out 40 million to a bum qb of an offense that has scored 9 td's in 7 weeks. That runner was just named the offense player of the week for rubbing Schoen's team's collective noses in shit. You think Schoen is going to get praised for his acumen? He's a target rich environment.
RE: The Barkley stuff doesn't make sense  
bw in dc : 8:31 pm : link
In comment 16659501 Sean said:
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But, until NYG wins, they will get zero benefit of the doubt. Fact is NYG has a shitty offense at 2-5 while Barkley just had a huge game for Philly at 4-2.

People are going to rip the Giants approach.


The problem wasn't letting Barkley go, it was keeping Jones.

Which I would guess you agree with...
This Barkley thing is so dumb  
Jerry in_DC : 8:44 pm : link
Probably the highest fame to value ratio in the league. Teams amount of airtime it gets is embarrassing and is a very easy heuristic for who understands football and who doesn't have a clue.
RE: National Media  
k2tampa : 8:45 pm : link
In comment 16659495 jwb50 said:
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Mocking Giants either way they look like stiffs.
Wait till Monday night there will be a camera showing Mara.


MacAfee is not media. He's an entertainer.
bw  
Sean : 8:46 pm : link
Absolutely. The problem is keeping Jones and paying him while kicking Barkley to the curb. The national media and players all are going to think that's outrageous.

If they tagged Jones and let Barkley ultimately walk, no one would care imo. It's that Jones is still here doing nothing.
bw  
Go Terps : 8:57 pm : link
+ a million.
bw  
Matt M. : 9:27 pm : link
I agree 100%. Like Eric said last week, Barkley can still be a good player and it can be the right move to have let him go. Both can be true. The real mistake was re-signing Jones. At most, they should have tagged him. I am pissed every week watching an inept Jones. I was not pissed watching Barkley run on the Giants. He is not really a difference maker for the Eagles and the Giants wouldn't be any better with him.
The  
jtfuoco : 9:54 pm : link
He lied was because of JS bull shit comment to mara saying he is hearing the Eagles are out because the bears are running up the price both those statement
were not true so in fact he did lie rather than telling the owner the truth in that he has no idea
RE: RE: The Barkley stuff doesn't make sense  
bradshaw44 : 10:07 pm : link
In comment 16659506 bw in dc said:
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In comment 16659501 Sean said:


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But, until NYG wins, they will get zero benefit of the doubt. Fact is NYG has a shitty offense at 2-5 while Barkley just had a huge game for Philly at 4-2.

People are going to rip the Giants approach.



The problem wasn't letting Barkley go, it was keeping Jones.

Which I would guess you agree with...


It was not trading Barkley for assets when we had the chance since we weren’t paying him. Terrible job by Schoen. Terrible.
Early on in Hard Knocks  
Matt in SGS : 10:20 pm : link
Schoen said he heard Philly was out. The thought was that Chicago was going to come in with a huge offer.

However, by later on in the season, it was clear he was going to Philly. Schoen even joked with Saquon's agent and said something like "just let me know when it's about to happen so I can brace here". There was zero surprise from Mara or anyone that Saquon went to Philly.

Mara was annoyed but when he went into JS's office, Schoen said to him "we'll be alright". And Mara told him "I know we will", and left.

McAfee doesn't have his facts straight. JS said over and over about the stats of 27 year old RBs and how they fall off a cliff. Let's see where Saquon is at the end of the season and next year as well. There is a non-zero chance Philly fans will be killing the Eagles about Saquon's contract this time next year.

IMO, Schoen was trying to force a decision on Jones this year. He knew he had this inflection point in his contract after 2024. Jones was going to sink or swim this year. He didn't want Saquon back because of the price of a RB, but I also don't think he wanted Saquon to bail out Jones. "We didn't pay him $40M to hand off". It's a Mythbusters scenario: Even a negative answer is an answer. It's now clear that Jones is nothing more than a backup QB in this league and it's time to move on. The injuries and inconsistent play have doomed him. And if Lock was any good..and if he had a good showing in 4Q last Sunday in garbage time, I'd bet Jones would have been benched for MNF.
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