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What was the point of that 2 pt conversion disaster?

WestCoastGMan : 10/29/2024 11:13 am
Was that left side designed to snowplow the defense? What happened when DJ confusingly threw that ball and everyone was saying "WTF?" What was the intention of that design? Pardon my ignorance.
DJ can't run well either. He has no torque when he moves in the pocket to get out. He looks bad physically - no torsional power below or up top for a dime throw.
And then there is his brain...
When you are the Kansas City Chiefs...you run "cute" plays  
GiantBlue : 10/29/2024 11:36 am : link
When you are the consistently sucky New York Giants, you don't run that kind of shit.....Just run a strong two point play...if you miss it....at least you tried....if you make it, it is business as usual.

This coaching staff and especially Daboll has no idea how they look to the NFL world.....Like complete idiots IMHO.
if the linemen were ready at the snap  
Pork Chop : 10/29/2024 11:48 am : link
the play would have worked. They just needed to lean in and Nabers would have scored pretty easily.

I don't know if that's on the linemen (possibly) or Jones (probably), but it was execution not play design that was the disaster.
That was the strangest  
mittenedman : 10/29/2024 11:56 am : link
play I've ever seen.

There is no explanation to describe what happened on that play.

Snapped too early? Who cares? The OL is looking at the ball as it's being snapped. And NO ONE moves.

How do you explain that?
should have worked  
bluepepper : 10/29/2024 12:05 pm : link
those guys out wide were asleep. People are saying they couldn't hear. But they were still frozen when the ball was in DJ's hand and the C/OL were out of their stance and blocking. And of course Highsmith knew the ball was snapped. Very odd and embarrassing for the coaching staff.
They can't do the basics and they go for some lark play  
WestCoastGMan : 10/29/2024 12:09 pm : link
That looks like a play that nobody ever ran physically. Everyone was confused and looking. DJ just tossed it like nothing.
If you haven't seen a Swinging Gate  
Blueworm : 10/29/2024 12:10 pm : link
You haven't been watching football for long.

Execution was off from the snap.
RE: That was the strangest  
jpetuch : 10/29/2024 12:18 pm : link
In comment 16665142 mittenedman said:
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play I've ever seen.

There is no explanation to describe what happened on that play.

Snapped too early? Who cares? The OL is looking at the ball as it's being snapped. And NO ONE moves.

How do you explain that?


Looked like a Big 12/CFL play
RE: They can't do the basics and they go for some lark play  
jpetuch : 10/29/2024 12:19 pm : link
In comment 16665171 WestCoastGMan said:
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That looks like a play that nobody ever ran physically. Everyone was confused and looking. DJ just tossed it like nothing.

It was meant to confuse the defense but confused the offense instead
I use the metaphor about learning "blocking and tackling"  
D HOS : 10/29/2024 12:25 pm : link
a lot, before doing anything complex. Literally that play was about that metaphor. You mean to tell me we don't have an effective normal 2pt play? I can think of a bunch... None of them look like that.
It would have worked if the front line guys were paying attention  
Starke86 : 10/29/2024 12:55 pm : link
It is a very simple play, Jones looked, saw the defense was completely outflanked and snapped it and threw the ball. They had 5 guys out there to block two. The coach and Qb were not at fault. You are taught to run out quickly and get set because you want to start the play before the defense adjusts and gets set. The guys on the outside ruined a perfectly good play call by not being ready. That one is on them.
RE: If you haven't seen a Swinging Gate  
gridirony : 10/29/2024 1:50 pm : link
In comment 16665176 Blueworm said:
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You haven't been watching football for long.

Execution was off from the snap.
That play was an Open Gate. And, the horse had already left the pasture.
Jones literally screamed WTF are we doing after the play  
djm : 10/29/2024 2:02 pm : link
so I have to believe he did what was expected and the OL players standing around like they were in a grocery store checkout were the ones that fucked up.

It reminded me of this  
pjcas18 : 10/29/2024 2:05 pm : link
ridiculous Colts trick play attempt vs the Patriots.



RE: It reminded me of this  
GruningsOnTheHill : 10/29/2024 2:21 pm : link
In comment 16665403 pjcas18 said:
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ridiculous Colts trick play attempt vs the Patriots.




Yep. Last night’s 2-point conversion folly is going to replace this Colts formation as the NFL blooper reel highlight.

Why even go for 2?  
Rudy5757 : 10/29/2024 2:23 pm : link
There is no benefit there. You’re down by 14. Go for 1 your down by 7, if you score again you can go for the win with the 2 pointer. You lose momentum there by missing the 2.

Daboll makes so many questionable calls each week.
RE: Why even go for 2?  
djm : 10/29/2024 2:28 pm : link
In comment 16665447 Rudy5757 said:
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There is no benefit there. You’re down by 14. Go for 1 your down by 7, if you score again you can go for the win with the 2 pointer. You lose momentum there by missing the 2.

Daboll makes so many questionable calls each week.


To be fair the best coaches in the NFL do this every week
RE: RE: Why even go for 2?  
JCassmen : 10/29/2024 4:19 pm : link
In comment 16665458 djm said:
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In comment 16665447 Rudy5757 said:


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There is no benefit there. You’re down by 14. Go for 1 your down by 7, if you score again you can go for the win with the 2 pointer. You lose momentum there by missing the 2.

Daboll makes so many questionable calls each week.



To be fair the best coaches in the NFL do this every week


And they have the best teams to execute calls like this...
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