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| WBG84 @WBG84 "The NFL is largely cool on the 2025 QB class right now. That isn't to say the first round will be devoid of QBs. I suspect that we could have five first-rounders if all the top QBs declare. But this class is viewed far less favorably than the 2024 group." - @FieldYates #NFLDraft |
If true, he needs to go. If he can't identify what he's seeing in Jones, why should he be the one to pick the next franchise QB?
I don't think he should. Schoen bought milk because he was responsible for the drinks and perceived it was a good deal.
Now he's the guy who brought reasonably priced milk to a dinner party.
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Everything I've heard is Mara likes Jones, but Schoen made the call, and Mara is appropriately critical of the outcome.
If true, he needs to go. If he can't identify what he's seeing in Jones, why should he be the one to pick the next franchise QB?
The decision being scrutinized here is not Schoen's decision to bring back Jones - it's the how and the eventual price tag. Nobody was really pushing back on the decision to at least try to re-sign DJ after the 2022 season. Certainly not given that we were picking in the 20s in the following year's draft.
Even the knowledgeable pundits who saw the holes in Jones's game back then thought that another year under Daboll could potentially elevate him even further.
2) We have no idea what JJM is going to be since he tore his ACL. The Way Darnold is playing, I highly doubt they won’t try to re-sign him so we might not know how well he’ll play once he does get a shot.
3) Penix hasn’t taken a snap yet. We know nothing about how well he’ll do.
4) Nix is playing well.
People are getting up in arms about the 2025 QB draft class. Maybe none of them are not in Caleb, Daniels and Mayes class. But we weren’t getting them anyway. There’s a lot of prospects in this draft that will be rated higher than JJM, Penix or Nix. A lot can change from now until then.
There was no scenario they could have paid a kings ransom to trade up for one of the top 3? I bet they could of.
They sent an army of people out to Penix's pro day. We may "know nothing" about Penix, but they sure know plenty about Jones.
This is is why you draft a QB- to find out if they can play. If not, you move on and try to find someone else quickly.
I think Nabers was a mistake at 6, but we will find out.
Agree to disagree. If the situation is as you described above, the Giants would take Sanders. In a heartbeat.
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If we still have the current regime (I would probably move on), I think Dabs will love the skill set that Sanders has.
Daboll isn't making the call on QB. Neither is Schoen.
I'd bet my house that the Giants would not draft Sanders.
Unfortunately I don’t think we’ll get to find out. I think we’ll have to trade up if we want him.
I think if we want any of the QBs we'll have to trade up, because we're going to probably win 4 more games.
Re Sanders, I think Daboll wouldn't mind him, but there's no way Mara would allow Sanders to be the "face of the franchise".
He'd be the face of the franchise.
Stop trying to force feed general disappointment with an owner down some dark path.
I sure hope Shedeur has put his musical ambitions aside. The last two guys who were into making music did not pan out.
He'd be the face of the franchise.
Stop trying to force feed general disappointment with an owner down some dark path.
What "dark path" are you talking about?
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If Sanders or whomever provided the team optimism with wins and inspiring play at QB. Was looked upon well by his teammates and the fans, and his jersey started popping up around the NYC metro.
He'd be the face of the franchise.
Stop trying to force feed general disappointment with an owner down some dark path.
What "dark path" are you talking about?
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In comment 16667078 ThomasG said:
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If Sanders or whomever provided the team optimism with wins and inspiring play at QB. Was looked upon well by his teammates and the fans, and his jersey started popping up around the NYC metro.
He'd be the face of the franchise.
Stop trying to force feed general disappointment with an owner down some dark path.
What "dark path" are you talking about?
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there's no way Mara would allow Sanders to be the "face of the franchise"
Yes. That's something several posters in this topic and others have noted, so it's not just my sole observation.
I think Mara would be open to any of the other QB prospects that we've mentioned as possible first rounders as the face of the franchise. But no way would he go for Sanders.
There is ZERO evidence of what is being suggested. Frankly, those that propose it are embarrassing themselves.
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In comment 16667078 ThomasG said:
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If Sanders or whomever provided the team optimism with wins and inspiring play at QB. Was looked upon well by his teammates and the fans, and his jersey started popping up around the NYC metro.
He'd be the face of the franchise.
Stop trying to force feed general disappointment with an owner down some dark path.
What "dark path" are you talking about?
Your comment...
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there's no way Mara would allow Sanders to be the "face of the franchise"
Yes. That's something several posters in this topic and others have noted, so it's not just my sole observation.
I think Mara would be open to any of the other QB prospects that we've mentioned as possible first rounders as the face of the franchise. But no way would he go for Sanders.
Well at least you and several other posters think just as badly alike.
And while it may not be your sole observation this take is a really poor soul observation.
There is ZERO evidence of what is being suggested. Frankly, those that propose it are embarrassing themselves.
Anyone whose watched this team, how they draft players, the comments the Maras have made over the last 2 decades or so, and comments people in the know around the league have made, would know that Sanders is just not what Mara would be comfortable with as QB. Not even if he were consensus #1 and we had the #1 overall pick. Mara would want to trade the pick.
So let me spell out exactly why - the circus surrounding him and his Dad, the off field stuff, his behavior (like throwing teammates under the bus, for a more recent example).
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about this is ridiculous and unfounded. I think it's bullshit. IF Sanders was the CONSENSUS number 1 pick, and Giants were in that spot, they would take him. No doubt.
There is ZERO evidence of what is being suggested. Frankly, those that propose it are embarrassing themselves.
Anyone whose watched this team, how they draft players, the comments the Maras have made over the last 2 decades or so, and comments people in the know around the league have made, would know that Sanders is just not what Mara would be comfortable with as QB. Not even if he were consensus #1 and we had the #1 overall pick. Mara would want to trade the pick.
So let me spell out exactly why - the circus surrounding him and his Dad, the off field stuff, his behavior (like throwing teammates under the bus, for a more recent example).
All the stuff you listed above is being overblown a little bit.
But this is irrelevant to what is being hinted at. And I think you know it. Keep up.
I think it's an open question whether he'd permit a Face of the Franchise to be somebody who doesn't align with those preferences.
I think it's an open question whether he'd permit a Face of the Franchise to be somebody who doesn't align with those preferences.
No, what are those specific preferences?
Is this all about Eli and his memorabilia fraud problems and dragging Mara thru that bad look as the Face of his Franchise?
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that Mara has preferences when it comes to his Face of the Franchise.
I think it's an open question whether he'd permit a Face of the Franchise to be somebody who doesn't align with those preferences.
No, what are those specific preferences?
Is this all about Eli and his memorabilia fraud problems and dragging Mara thru that bad look as the Face of his Franchise?
No one cared about that. It received less attention than a player going to a concert on an off day.
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about this is ridiculous and unfounded. I think it's bullshit. IF Sanders was the CONSENSUS number 1 pick, and Giants were in that spot, they would take him. No doubt.
There is ZERO evidence of what is being suggested. Frankly, those that propose it are embarrassing themselves.
Anyone whose watched this team, how they draft players, the comments the Maras have made over the last 2 decades or so, and comments people in the know around the league have made, would know that Sanders is just not what Mara would be comfortable with as QB. Not even if he were consensus #1 and we had the #1 overall pick. Mara would want to trade the pick.
So let me spell out exactly why - the circus surrounding him and his Dad, the off field stuff, his behavior (like throwing teammates under the bus, for a more recent example).
All the stuff you listed above is being overblown a little bit.
But this is irrelevant to what is being hinted at. And I think you know it. Keep up.
You state that as if it's a fact but you're wrong. Carry on.