but would push really hard for a 3rd rounder. He's become an important part of our offense and ideally would like to re-sign him at a reasonable contract.
but would push really hard for a 3rd rounder. He's become an important part of our offense and ideally would like to re-sign him at a reasonable contract.
Are you still high from last night or did you start early?
needs to make some moves if we’re going to have draft capital to move up. This season is over. He should always be looking to make moves like the more successful GMs in the league
but would push really hard for a 3rd rounder. He's become an important part of our offense and ideally would like to re-sign him at a reasonable contract.
needs to make some moves if we’re going to have draft capital to move up. This season is over. He should always be looking to make moves like the more successful GMs in the league
A fifth, sixth or seventh, or possibly even jusr a swap of picks, isn't going to help on a trade up in the first round.
And the most successful GMs aren't trading players to add draft picks at the deadline. They having winning teams.
but would push really hard for a 3rd rounder. He's become an important part of our offense and ideally would like to re-sign him at a reasonable contract.
We will be lucky to get a 6th.
Then absolutely do not trade him. Not saying we will get a 4th, just that we should not trade him if we don't.
One factor here is he is on a very reaonslbe salary, unlike some of the other premium WR's traded.
Posters are correct in that a return is, at best, a 5th or 6th. Are you going to get a better player than Slayton in the 5th. or 6th. round? Not with this crew making the picks. Unless you are either going to get a superior choice (say a 3rd. or better) or if there are major issues (financial or otherwise) with a particular player and you want to get rid of him, the idea of a sell off just doesn't make much sense.
needs to make some moves if we’re going to have draft capital to move up. This season is over. He should always be looking to make moves like the more successful GMs in the league
A fifth, sixth or seventh, or possibly even jusr a swap of picks, isn't going to help on a trade up in the first round.
And the most successful GMs aren't trading players to add draft picks at the deadline. They having winning teams.
The more the better but there is a fine line. Is Slayton a long term piece? If not, you get something now instead of losing him for nothing. If the player is a long term piece, then you weigh what is better for the future of the team. And it isn't in a vacuum. You have to look at this holistically. Yes, a fifth isn't going to move the needle all that much in a trade up but having more picks does help. If you trade away two firsts and a second next year to get your QB, you still need more ways to bring in players. Late round picks are still important to any franchise when you hit. It is cheap and controlled labor. The more swings you take, you hope the more hits you get.
but would push really hard for a 3rd rounder. He's become an important part of our offense and ideally would like to re-sign him at a reasonable contract.
We will be lucky to get a 6th.
Then absolutely do not trade him. Not saying we will get a 4th, just that we should not trade him if we don't.
One factor here is he is on a very reaonslbe salary, unlike some of the other premium WR's traded.
He’s going to be a FA. If the plan is to not sign him (regardless of whether you think we should or shouldn’t) is kind of all that matters. He’s going to command a pay increase, I’d rather spend the money elsewhere.
needs to make some moves if we’re going to have draft capital to move up. This season is over. He should always be looking to make moves like the more successful GMs in the league
A fifth, sixth or seventh, or possibly even jusr a swap of picks, isn't going to help on a trade up in the first round.
And the most successful GMs aren't trading players to add draft picks at the deadline. They having winning teams.
We can snap our fingers and be a winning team though. And not every move has to be done with the goal of only moving up in the first round. I’m not sure why anyone would be locked into that approach, especially the good GMs you reference.
but would push really hard for a 3rd rounder. He's become an important part of our offense and ideally would like to re-sign him at a reasonable contract.
The upside Slayton brings, is that the compensatory pick formula is indexed to contract and not position. If he has a nice back half of the season, he'll earn a decent UFA contract as mid tier WR. I wouldn't be surprised if he commanded 10M AAV.
I could see the Giants retrieving a 5th that converts to a 4th if say he gains 400 yards with his new team.
His new team will then pay the prorated minimum for 9 games of service, and open the door to a 4th round comp pick when he leaves.
on this pertaining to him and Ojulari. If the team is going to resign them at the end of the season or even intends on extending them before the end of it, they're better players than the return you're going to get, don't trade them.
If Schoen "doesn't want to spend the money" on either next year trade them and get what you can. We're 2-6, not making the playoffs and likely will buy more than we lose next offseason so comp picks are off the table. Don't let them walk for nothing.
I'd expect a return of a 5th or 6th for both but encourage Schoen to get creative and maybe package both for a higher pick or possibly a young player that will be here next season.
was a 5th round pick. I'd take a chance of finding another Tracy for Slayton.
With the dogshit situation we are in at QB I see absolutely no reason to keep him. There is nothing gained by keeping him the rest of the year; no rapport to build with a QB of the future. Just empty stats and increased odds of winning a meaningless game. The Giants have proved time and time again end of season wins carry no weight to "momentum" the next season. The culture of the team is not going to be effected one way or another. Holding onto Barkley last year in fear of what it would mean to culture to trade him was the ultimate dumb move as seen by how events have played out since. I'm at the point with this team that anything that increases odds of losing games down the stretch I am all for, and gaining any extra pick no matter how late they may be is just gravy.
but would push really hard for a 3rd rounder. He's become an important part of our offense and ideally would like to re-sign him at a reasonable contract.
I'd like to feel exactly how you feel, but there is no way the Giants can get a 3rd for Slayton and doubtful a 4th. That's just the market the way it is these days. Perhaps a late 5th Rounder and most likely just a 6th for a guy who is easy to root for.
The reason you keep Slayton, is because he's a solid second receiving option. The Giants finally have a solid first and second option. Both Robinson and Hyatt have crystal clear lower ceilings. So in the spirit of trying to build a good team, keeping the good players seems logical.
RE: Here are the recent trades to guage the market.
3 of the 4 WRs traded have SIGNIFICANT contracts. Better players, but very expensive. Slayton most favorably compares with Johnson, contract and production wise.
So to move up from early 6th to late 5th. It isn't worth it. Why?
1) Loss of productive player for the last several games, whatever that is worth is minor at this point.
2) Loss of comp pick when he signs elsewhere. Realistically, what would they get a 7th? 6th at best, right? And not till 2026 draft.
3) To me, this is the big one. That's one less player we would "lose" in the FA Comp pick formula. So we wouldn't just forfeit the 7th round comp pick in 26. But we'd also lose one less player, or potential pick, in the formula.
So why trade up a few spots into the end of the 5th round in 25?
Instead keep a productive player, get the comp pick when he leaves, and have an extra player in the formula.
Same for Ojulari. Who with a big finish, maybe a sucker overpays $15mm like Bryce Huff signing?? At a minimum, he's a 6/7th rounder plus a player int he formula.
be surprised if the Giants trade him. He's our #2 WR, but as others have noted, the return would like be no more than a sixth. I'd be inclined to resign him and trade Robinson or Hyatt instead.
RE: RE: Here are the recent trades to guage the market.
3 of the 4 WRs traded have SIGNIFICANT contracts. Better players, but very expensive. Slayton most favorably compares with Johnson, contract and production wise.
So to move up from early 6th to late 5th. It isn't worth it. Why?
1) Loss of productive player for the last several games, whatever that is worth is minor at this point.
2) Loss of comp pick when he signs elsewhere. Realistically, what would they get a 7th? 6th at best, right? And not till 2026 draft.
3) To me, this is the big one. That's one less player we would "lose" in the FA Comp pick formula. So we wouldn't just forfeit the 7th round comp pick in 26. But we'd also lose one less player, or potential pick, in the formula.
So why trade up a few spots into the end of the 5th round in 25?
Instead keep a productive player, get the comp pick when he leaves, and have an extra player in the formula.
Same for Ojulari. Who with a big finish, maybe a sucker overpays $15mm like Bryce Huff signing?? At a minimum, he's a 6/7th rounder plus a player int he formula.
FLIP SIDE to my argument would be:
- If Schoen plans on bringing in a LOT of guys in FA this offseason anyway. Way more than leaving. Getting ANYTHING for Slay or Ojulari is a win. Since comp formula is moot anyway.
Plus they'd get cap savings of half their salaries to carry forward.
RE: Here are the recent trades to guage the market.
It’s not worth it if we only get a 5th or 6th… a 4th maybe, ideally you’d like to get what the Eagles got for Dotson (a 3rd). I think a 4th round pick, that becomes a 3rd if he resigns with the team we trade him to is the best we could possibly hope for.
If the price is right the absolute best thing for us is to bring him back for next season. He is a solid WR2 truly.
Carolina was fed up with Johnson and he straight up called out the staff. Second team in a row that was willing to take discounted returns to move on from him. He's a good on-field comparison, but Slayton couldn't be a more opposite locker room guy.
is likely to ruin the market for a WR like Slayton. Panthers basically got a 6th for 5th swap which is even worse when you consider CAR's 6th is going to be at the very top and BAL's 5th will be toward the bottom.
is what you would expect and what we should do honestly. Slayton is gone after the year (and should be btw) as he, like Jones, has been here for too many years of losing. Move him, get a pick..
is likely to ruin the market for a WR like Slayton. Panthers basically got a 6th for 5th swap which is even worse when you consider CAR's 6th is going to be at the very top and BAL's 5th will be toward the bottom.
Johnson being a total bag of dicks explains away the market. They were probably prepared to cut him.
is what you would expect and what we should do honestly. Slayton is gone after the year (and should be btw) as he, like Jones, has been here for too many years of losing. Move him, get a pick..
Lol. Slayton has been on the losing end of playing with a dog shit quarterback, and has produced admirably in spite of it. Your logic is scraping the barrel.
be surprised if the Giants trade him. He's our #2 WR, but as others have noted, the return would like be no more than a sixth. I'd be inclined to resign him and trade Robinson or Hyatt instead.
For what…Robinson and Hyatt get us what?
Absolutely nothing
I like Slayton, I think he has performed very well with a dog crap
QB. This season, and really the last couple, he compares favorably with Diontae Johnson, who got a 5th rd pick but they also had to give a 6th rd pick along with Diontae. I am not sure that is worth it frankly. Why trade away Slayton, whose production is likley more than a 5th or 6th rd pick, just to hope we get something better? Plus he's cheap
unless you can get a 3rd/4th it probably doesnt matter much
if he walks in FA it's likely on a deal big enough to qualify for a day 3 comp pick. ojulari likely will too. obviously then it depends on the giants and how they manipulate their way through FA. GVR is having a decent year so he could be another qualifier and in recent years it's been easier and easier to find non-qualifying free agents to add.
Lol. Slayton has been on the losing end of playing with a dog shit quarterback, and has produced admirably in spite of it. Your logic is scraping the barrel.
What size you do wear? And I'll reach out to you offline to get your address...
Li, I agree. I'd argue the floor should be a path to a 4th, even if it's conditional.
A 2025 common 4th is worth more than 2026 compensatory 4th, so I'd be willing to do that if it were me.
If Slayton exits the year on pace, he'll be in the smallish group of receivers to post 700+ yards at a 60% catch date over the trailing 3 years. He squarely in the solid number 2 group and should command 10M AAV. He's going to factor well in the comp for someone.
receiver over the years. Still drops a few, but has been much more consistent in recent years. He's also a good influence on the younger guys and lord knows we need that too. If he goes, we need to ensure we bring in a dependable Vet #2 next season.
moving up 12 spots in the draft. No way they're getting a pick for Slayton.
Johnson wore out of his welcome on consecutive teams. Carolina was likely on the verge of cutting him. They are all the money and opted for a minor swap because he's an asshole.
needs to make some moves if we’re going to have draft capital to move up. This season is over. He should always be looking to make moves like the more successful GMs in the league
A fifth, sixth or seventh, or possibly even jusr a swap of picks, isn't going to help on a trade up in the first round.
And the most successful GMs aren't trading players to add draft picks at the deadline. They having winning teams.
The more the better but there is a fine line. Is Slayton a long term piece? If not, you get something now instead of losing him for nothing. If the player is a long term piece, then you weigh what is better for the future of the team. And it isn't in a vacuum. You have to look at this holistically. Yes, a fifth isn't going to move the needle all that much in a trade up but having more picks does help. If you trade away two firsts and a second next year to get your QB, you still need more ways to bring in players. Late round picks are still important to any franchise when you hit. It is cheap and controlled labor. The more swings you take, you hope the more hits you get.
needs to make some moves if we’re going to have draft capital to move up. This season is over. He should always be looking to make moves like the more successful GMs in the league
A fifth, sixth or seventh, or possibly even jusr a swap of picks, isn't going to help on a trade up in the first round.
And the most successful GMs aren't trading players to add draft picks at the deadline. They having winning teams.
We can snap our fingers and be a winning team though. And not every move has to be done with the goal of only moving up in the first round. I’m not sure why anyone would be locked into that approach, especially the good GMs you reference.
What?!! This team has been “snapping” their fingers for the last 11 years and where are we? You think we’re playing GM for a day? How do you think other teams acquire draft capital? In a lottery?
RE: unless you can get a 3rd/4th it probably doesnt matter much
if he walks in FA it's likely on a deal big enough to qualify for a day 3 comp pick. ojulari likely will too. obviously then it depends on the giants and how they manipulate their way through FA. GVR is having a decent year so he could be another qualifier and in recent years it's been easier and easier to find non-qualifying free agents to add.
McKinney got 4 years, 68 mil and we are only expected a 4th round comp pick. I don't see Slayton getting near that.
The reason you keep Slayton, is because he's a solid second receiving option. The Giants finally have a solid first and second option. Both Robinson and Hyatt have crystal clear lower ceilings. So in the spirit of trying to build a good team, keeping the good players seems logical.
Is he though? He's third behind Nabers and Robinson in targets but obviosuly has more yards/catch than Robinson. Slayton and Robinson fill different roles but this offense isn't worse without either of them.
The reason you keep Slayton, is because he's a solid second receiving option. The Giants finally have a solid first and second option. Both Robinson and Hyatt have crystal clear lower ceilings. So in the spirit of trying to build a good team, keeping the good players seems logical.
Is he though? He's third behind Nabers and Robinson in targets but obviosuly has more yards/catch than Robinson. Slayton and Robinson fill different roles but this offense isn't worse without either of them.
Lol he's the reason they won the Seahawks game and the reason they were competitive against Pittsburgh.
Are you going to swap in Jalin "the only big play I've broken all year is my rib" Hyatt?
The reason you keep Slayton, is because he's a solid second receiving option. The Giants finally have a solid first and second option. Both Robinson and Hyatt have crystal clear lower ceilings. So in the spirit of trying to build a good team, keeping the good players seems logical.
Is he though? He's third behind Nabers and Robinson in targets but obviosuly has more yards/catch than Robinson. Slayton and Robinson fill different roles but this offense isn't worse without either of them.
Lol he's the reason they won the Seahawks game and the reason they were competitive against Pittsburgh.
Are you going to swap in Jalin "the only big play I've broken all year is my rib" Hyatt?
Sure. It won't make a difference with this team. I'm on the opposite side of the fence of you regarding Slayton. I don't think he's worth the price, he was great value for a 5th rounder, but he's reaching the point in his career where you overpay for his value and generally my philosphy is that WR production in the draft later in later round is usually a lot easier to find than other positions. I'd rather use a 5th or 6th to draft a WR then pay him.
And you know the Giants will fuck up any comp formula if they let him walk, so rather have a pick now.
Li, I agree. I'd argue the floor should be a path to a 4th, even if it's conditional.
A 2025 common 4th is worth more than 2026 compensatory 4th, so I'd be willing to do that if it were me.
If Slayton exits the year on pace, he'll be in the smallish group of receivers to post 700+ yards at a 60% catch date over the trailing 3 years. He squarely in the solid number 2 group and should command 10M AAV. He's going to factor well in the comp for someone.
Slayton is traded for a 5th or so I hope it is a pick in 2 or 3 years. That way we could trade the pick for someone similar when we need something at the deadline. I don't see the Giants needing to make a deadline trade next year.
Are you still high from last night or did you start early?
We will be lucky to get a 6th.
A fifth, sixth or seventh, or possibly even jusr a swap of picks, isn't going to help on a trade up in the first round.
And the most successful GMs aren't trading players to add draft picks at the deadline. They having winning teams.
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but would push really hard for a 3rd rounder. He's become an important part of our offense and ideally would like to re-sign him at a reasonable contract.
We will be lucky to get a 6th.
Then absolutely do not trade him. Not saying we will get a 4th, just that we should not trade him if we don't.
One factor here is he is on a very reaonslbe salary, unlike some of the other premium WR's traded.
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needs to make some moves if we’re going to have draft capital to move up. This season is over. He should always be looking to make moves like the more successful GMs in the league
A fifth, sixth or seventh, or possibly even jusr a swap of picks, isn't going to help on a trade up in the first round.
And the most successful GMs aren't trading players to add draft picks at the deadline. They having winning teams.
The more the better but there is a fine line. Is Slayton a long term piece? If not, you get something now instead of losing him for nothing. If the player is a long term piece, then you weigh what is better for the future of the team. And it isn't in a vacuum. You have to look at this holistically. Yes, a fifth isn't going to move the needle all that much in a trade up but having more picks does help. If you trade away two firsts and a second next year to get your QB, you still need more ways to bring in players. Late round picks are still important to any franchise when you hit. It is cheap and controlled labor. The more swings you take, you hope the more hits you get.
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but would push really hard for a 3rd rounder. He's become an important part of our offense and ideally would like to re-sign him at a reasonable contract.
We will be lucky to get a 6th.
Then absolutely do not trade him. Not saying we will get a 4th, just that we should not trade him if we don't.
One factor here is he is on a very reaonslbe salary, unlike some of the other premium WR's traded.
He’s going to be a FA. If the plan is to not sign him (regardless of whether you think we should or shouldn’t) is kind of all that matters. He’s going to command a pay increase, I’d rather spend the money elsewhere.
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needs to make some moves if we’re going to have draft capital to move up. This season is over. He should always be looking to make moves like the more successful GMs in the league
A fifth, sixth or seventh, or possibly even jusr a swap of picks, isn't going to help on a trade up in the first round.
And the most successful GMs aren't trading players to add draft picks at the deadline. They having winning teams.
We can snap our fingers and be a winning team though. And not every move has to be done with the goal of only moving up in the first round. I’m not sure why anyone would be locked into that approach, especially the good GMs you reference.
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but would push really hard for a 3rd rounder. He's become an important part of our offense and ideally would like to re-sign him at a reasonable contract.
We will be lucky to get a 6th.
Then we shouldn’t trade him.
I could see the Giants retrieving a 5th that converts to a 4th if say he gains 400 yards with his new team.
His new team will then pay the prorated minimum for 9 games of service, and open the door to a 4th round comp pick when he leaves.
If Schoen "doesn't want to spend the money" on either next year trade them and get what you can. We're 2-6, not making the playoffs and likely will buy more than we lose next offseason so comp picks are off the table. Don't let them walk for nothing.
I'd expect a return of a 5th or 6th for both but encourage Schoen to get creative and maybe package both for a higher pick or possibly a young player that will be here next season.
With the dogshit situation we are in at QB I see absolutely no reason to keep him. There is nothing gained by keeping him the rest of the year; no rapport to build with a QB of the future. Just empty stats and increased odds of winning a meaningless game. The Giants have proved time and time again end of season wins carry no weight to "momentum" the next season. The culture of the team is not going to be effected one way or another. Holding onto Barkley last year in fear of what it would mean to culture to trade him was the ultimate dumb move as seen by how events have played out since. I'm at the point with this team that anything that increases odds of losing games down the stretch I am all for, and gaining any extra pick no matter how late they may be is just gravy.
I'd like to feel exactly how you feel, but there is no way the Giants can get a 3rd for Slayton and doubtful a 4th. That's just the market the way it is these days. Perhaps a late 5th Rounder and most likely just a 6th for a guy who is easy to root for.
3 of the 4 WRs traded have SIGNIFICANT contracts. Better players, but very expensive. Slayton most favorably compares with Johnson, contract and production wise.
So to move up from early 6th to late 5th. It isn't worth it. Why?
1) Loss of productive player for the last several games, whatever that is worth is minor at this point.
2) Loss of comp pick when he signs elsewhere. Realistically, what would they get a 7th? 6th at best, right? And not till 2026 draft.
3) To me, this is the big one. That's one less player we would "lose" in the FA Comp pick formula. So we wouldn't just forfeit the 7th round comp pick in 26. But we'd also lose one less player, or potential pick, in the formula.
So why trade up a few spots into the end of the 5th round in 25?
Instead keep a productive player, get the comp pick when he leaves, and have an extra player in the formula.
Same for Ojulari. Who with a big finish, maybe a sucker overpays $15mm like Bryce Huff signing?? At a minimum, he's a 6/7th rounder plus a player int he formula.
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3 of the 4 WRs traded have SIGNIFICANT contracts. Better players, but very expensive. Slayton most favorably compares with Johnson, contract and production wise.
So to move up from early 6th to late 5th. It isn't worth it. Why?
1) Loss of productive player for the last several games, whatever that is worth is minor at this point.
2) Loss of comp pick when he signs elsewhere. Realistically, what would they get a 7th? 6th at best, right? And not till 2026 draft.
3) To me, this is the big one. That's one less player we would "lose" in the FA Comp pick formula. So we wouldn't just forfeit the 7th round comp pick in 26. But we'd also lose one less player, or potential pick, in the formula.
So why trade up a few spots into the end of the 5th round in 25?
Instead keep a productive player, get the comp pick when he leaves, and have an extra player in the formula.
Same for Ojulari. Who with a big finish, maybe a sucker overpays $15mm like Bryce Huff signing?? At a minimum, he's a 6/7th rounder plus a player int he formula.
FLIP SIDE to my argument would be:
- If Schoen plans on bringing in a LOT of guys in FA this offseason anyway. Way more than leaving. Getting ANYTHING for Slay or Ojulari is a win. Since comp formula is moot anyway.
Plus they'd get cap savings of half their salaries to carry forward.
It’s not worth it if we only get a 5th or 6th… a 4th maybe, ideally you’d like to get what the Eagles got for Dotson (a 3rd). I think a 4th round pick, that becomes a 3rd if he resigns with the team we trade him to is the best we could possibly hope for.
If the price is right the absolute best thing for us is to bring him back for next season. He is a solid WR2 truly.
Johnson being a total bag of dicks explains away the market. They were probably prepared to cut him.
Lol. Slayton has been on the losing end of playing with a dog shit quarterback, and has produced admirably in spite of it. Your logic is scraping the barrel.
For what…Robinson and Hyatt get us what?
Absolutely nothing
Lol. Slayton has been on the losing end of playing with a dog shit quarterback, and has produced admirably in spite of it. Your logic is scraping the barrel.
What size you do wear? And I'll reach out to you offline to get your address...
A 2025 common 4th is worth more than 2026 compensatory 4th, so I'd be willing to do that if it were me.
If Slayton exits the year on pace, he'll be in the smallish group of receivers to post 700+ yards at a 60% catch date over the trailing 3 years. He squarely in the solid number 2 group and should command 10M AAV. He's going to factor well in the comp for someone.
This.
Johnson wore out of his welcome on consecutive teams. Carolina was likely on the verge of cutting him. They are all the money and opted for a minor swap because he's an asshole.
Barkley would have probably gotten us a day 2 pick. That’s a bit different is it not. Or doesn’t the return matter to you.
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needs to make some moves if we’re going to have draft capital to move up. This season is over. He should always be looking to make moves like the more successful GMs in the league
A fifth, sixth or seventh, or possibly even jusr a swap of picks, isn't going to help on a trade up in the first round.
And the most successful GMs aren't trading players to add draft picks at the deadline. They having winning teams.
The more the better but there is a fine line. Is Slayton a long term piece? If not, you get something now instead of losing him for nothing. If the player is a long term piece, then you weigh what is better for the future of the team. And it isn't in a vacuum. You have to look at this holistically. Yes, a fifth isn't going to move the needle all that much in a trade up but having more picks does help. If you trade away two firsts and a second next year to get your QB, you still need more ways to bring in players. Late round picks are still important to any franchise when you hit. It is cheap and controlled labor. The more swings you take, you hope the more hits you get.
THIS!!! ^^^
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needs to make some moves if we’re going to have draft capital to move up. This season is over. He should always be looking to make moves like the more successful GMs in the league
A fifth, sixth or seventh, or possibly even jusr a swap of picks, isn't going to help on a trade up in the first round.
And the most successful GMs aren't trading players to add draft picks at the deadline. They having winning teams.
We can snap our fingers and be a winning team though. And not every move has to be done with the goal of only moving up in the first round. I’m not sure why anyone would be locked into that approach, especially the good GMs you reference.
What?!! This team has been “snapping” their fingers for the last 11 years and where are we? You think we’re playing GM for a day? How do you think other teams acquire draft capital? In a lottery?
McKinney got 4 years, 68 mil and we are only expected a 4th round comp pick. I don't see Slayton getting near that.
Is he though? He's third behind Nabers and Robinson in targets but obviosuly has more yards/catch than Robinson. Slayton and Robinson fill different roles but this offense isn't worse without either of them.
Slayton is an older, but arguably better player. I wouldn't be floored if there is 3/39M deal out there for him if he continues on his 24 pace.
Is he though? He's third behind Nabers and Robinson in targets but obviosuly has more yards/catch than Robinson. Slayton and Robinson fill different roles but this offense isn't worse without either of them.
Lol he's the reason they won the Seahawks game and the reason they were competitive against Pittsburgh.
Are you going to swap in Jalin "the only big play I've broken all year is my rib" Hyatt?
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The reason you keep Slayton, is because he's a solid second receiving option. The Giants finally have a solid first and second option. Both Robinson and Hyatt have crystal clear lower ceilings. So in the spirit of trying to build a good team, keeping the good players seems logical.
Is he though? He's third behind Nabers and Robinson in targets but obviosuly has more yards/catch than Robinson. Slayton and Robinson fill different roles but this offense isn't worse without either of them.
Lol he's the reason they won the Seahawks game and the reason they were competitive against Pittsburgh.
Are you going to swap in Jalin "the only big play I've broken all year is my rib" Hyatt?
Sure. It won't make a difference with this team. I'm on the opposite side of the fence of you regarding Slayton. I don't think he's worth the price, he was great value for a 5th rounder, but he's reaching the point in his career where you overpay for his value and generally my philosphy is that WR production in the draft later in later round is usually a lot easier to find than other positions. I'd rather use a 5th or 6th to draft a WR then pay him.
And you know the Giants will fuck up any comp formula if they let him walk, so rather have a pick now.
A 2025 common 4th is worth more than 2026 compensatory 4th, so I'd be willing to do that if it were me.
If Slayton exits the year on pace, he'll be in the smallish group of receivers to post 700+ yards at a 60% catch date over the trailing 3 years. He squarely in the solid number 2 group and should command 10M AAV. He's going to factor well in the comp for someone.
Are you his agent? I like him also.
If you keep him and then he signs a decent free agent deal
you probably get the same.
Why trade him?